Islam

[H Abiff]

With this post I am sure to be branded as a racist and an Islamafobe. But here goes. I was struck a few years ago by Islamic posts on different web sites mainly stating that if you don’t have a belief in Islam that you are mainly uninformed. So I started reading and looking for information. The more I studied and the more I read, especially by those who are Islamic, the more concerned if not scared by what they believe and what they believe for the future.

Anyone that is vaguely familiar with the Judeo/Christian epic should really spend some time looking into this situation even if you do not believe in religion. For while you may pass these things off as “religious” stories that mean nothing in the real world, know one thing. One quarter of the earths population believe and for most even to death in the Islamic belief system. They believe whole-heartedly and even brag of the Christian brands of “beast” “anti Christ” “they believe that 666 is a holy number. Please compare the Islamic beliefs with the Christian and Jewish beliefs. You will be shocked. Even to Christ coming back in human form to kill the Jews and turn every one to Islam. They are proud to kill you and even prouder to die in trying.

Regardless of your beliefs you have to realize that THEY believe and look foreword to the entire earth being Islamic and under Sharia law. They are getting there in Europe and have prophecies of Italy being taken. Any lands that they have inhabited they feel are theirs to dominate and rule. Even now they say that they discovered the America’s before Columbus so they have a pre-authority to dominate it. Remember they took over the Eastern Catholic Empire and replaced it with Islam in the Ottoman Empire only defeated in the First World War.

Read and study, not what Christians or Jews have to say about them, or what I say about them, but get into the material that they teach their people. Either find out and challenge them or just pray five times a day to a black rock in Mecca like 1.4 billion Moslem's do today. Call it the words of God the Bible, or call it Physic or whatever, but look into the prophecies and how they exactly fit the current things happening.

[jerrycsmith]

You're absolutely right, Hiram. There's no such thing as real prophecy, but as long as any warlike group of people accept the concept, whether they truly believe it or not, there will be trouble. And it will be serious trouble, the kind you can't negotiate or change with goodness. In short, such people become a predatory enemy of all who just want to live and mind their own business, regardless of under whatever faith they choose to prosecute. It happened during the Crusades, and what goes around comes around

So who strikes the first really decisive blow against such an enemy? Clearly, no government will do it, and any private group who tries would soon be marked for "accidental" execution or worse, including their families. You and I have the dubious advantage of a relatively short future, but our grandkids will absolutely have to deal with it, probably on a mass-bloodshed basis.

Some people will not take No for an answer; you have to give them Hell No. After all the rhetoric and all the suffering & sacrifice in the meanwhile, that will be the ultimate fix. At least until the next faith surfaces with more doctrinal mandates.

[nanichris]

Jerry, as you no doubt remember I have often posted that we should STOP the immigration of ALL Muslims to this country. I don't care how nice they are, or how much they don't want to carry on some form of warfare against the rest of the world, they DO NOT stand up and say the nut jobs from their religion are wrong. That is either because they are afraid to do so, or because they secretly do believe in Islam taking over the world but are content to let someone else do it. Either way, I DON'T WANT THEM FOR A NEIGHBOR!
Many religions have at one time or another thought that they were mandated by God to take over the world. They killed others in their effort to do so. God has been used as an excuse to kill ones fellow human beings for far too long. However, most of these religions grew out of their weird beliefs and agreed that doing harm to ones neighbors in the name of a Supreme Being was wrong. So we no longer have the Church of England burning Catholics, or the Pope trying to overthrow the King of England. Here in our own country we no longer have Catholics banned from certain cities or Protestants fighting each other over doctrine. We've learned to practice tolerance. But not Islam. They are still stuck in the dark ages and believe in killing for God. And That is why I don't want them in my country!

[jerrycsmith]

I agree, Chris, but with one additional demand: I don't want ANYONE in this country trying to enforce their faith doctrine upon me. Their freedom of belief expression ends where mine begins.

[nanichris]

We have a Constitution that says we all have freedom of religion...which means we have freedom from religion if that is what we desire. And I firmly support that. There should be no official religion of the U.S. But that doesn't mean that when people get together and they wish to pray (such as a short prayer before a football game for the safety of all of the players) that they should be banned from doing that because someone believes that it is forbidden under the separation of religion and government. After all, no one HAS to pray. They can just sit there, or stand and remain silent. What I don't believe is right is that a few people can force their NON belief on the majority of people.

[jb]

Still catching up here with the threads. As usual, very interesting reading!!!!!

[nanichris]

Hey j.b., glad to see you have some time away from worrying to post here. Hope all is going well with Lorraine.