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Post by Tommy Thompson on Mar 10, 2013 0:38:49 GMT -5
wow...this lady is fantastic. She schools the Tenn AG about gun rights and the constitution v the supreme court and the governments position on gun control. She says the government doesn't have the authority to write gun control laws...and the supreme court doesn't have the authority to even weigh in on it.
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Post by Tommy Thompson on Mar 10, 2013 2:42:45 GMT -5
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Post by cbk on Mar 11, 2013 9:07:28 GMT -5
Tommy, I believe a worthy project would be to send a copy of this video to every sheriff in the nation so that they know that they have not only Constitutional rights to defend their counties but also God given rights to ignore the government when evil people try to use the Constitutional to enforce things it was NEVER intended to enforce.
As this woman points out, the Constitution is our creature, not the other way around. WE THE PEOPLE are the ruling power in this country. That is why we set up the Constitution so it could be changed BY THE PEOPLE in a lawful manner. It is God who gives us our rights, and no court or government can take them away. They can only imprison or kill us. But those actions can NOT take away our rights. Government can only act in an unlawful, immoral, and unconstitutional way. We can knuckle under or we can stand up and say, NO!
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Post by jerrycsmith on Mar 11, 2013 10:06:17 GMT -5
Hate to bust your bubble, but rights are actually just privileges that exist at the whim of whoever is in power. As long as these "rights" serve both rulers and the people, they stay in place, and we take pride in them and shout them from the rooftops as if they were something holy. But as soon as they get in the way, they are sidetracked or eliminated altogether. Read your history. Obviously, if these "rights" were given by a deity, that could not happen. Rights only exist in conjunction with bloodshed and sacrifice.
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Post by Tommy Thompson on Mar 11, 2013 10:25:08 GMT -5
when she and others say that these rights were given to us by God I replace that with "nature" in my own mind. Nature gives us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Where it gets tricky is when my rights might interfere with someone else's rights or vice versa.
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Post by jerrycsmith on Mar 11, 2013 10:31:17 GMT -5
I beg to differ in both respects, Tommy. Nothing gives us any kind of rights at all. Rights must be taken at whatever cost they're worth. If we were born with rights, nobody would ever starve or lift up a hand toward another. Substitute the word privilege everywhere you see right, and you have a more accurate picture.
Both the Declaration and the Constitution are nothing more than written offers that grant certain privileges and consensual restrictions to the populace as long as they support the new government. Forgetting this over the intervening centuries, we've somehow elevated them to sacred status.
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Post by cbk on Mar 11, 2013 12:34:19 GMT -5
Jerry, I have to disagree with you big time. "The rights to which nature and nature's God entitle us..." Government and evil people (Hitler and his like) can keep us from accessing those rights, but they are still there. They are still ours. We may have to fight for them; indeed it is why we fight for them. It is because they are ours by nature. We by nature have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This is what our Founding Fathers believed, and that is what our government was founded upon.
You know, people can shout to the heavens that 2 + 2 = 5. The majority of the population can support that. BUT it doesn't make it so.
Nature gives us the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The proof of that is that governments which try to subvert those rights eventually fall. Why? Because mankind instinctively knows that the above rights are, by nature, his.
Man is flawed. He doesn't always follow the right path. But it doesn't mean that the right path isn't there.
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Post by jb on Mar 12, 2013 9:34:38 GMT -5
As always, very interesting comments from the group!!!
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