Forcing Genn Beck's hand

[Tommy Thompson]

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A lot of us at Obamacrimes have been really questioning why Glenn Beck and others at Fox News has neglected to report on the citizenship issue of Barry Soetoro. aka Barrack Obama.
I have written to Glenn Beck several times asking why he hasn't been reporting on this issue but I keep getting negative responses from the editor telling me "it's a massive waste of time" and they are concentrating on things that are more important.
Well it seems there are a lot of people asking the same questions of Fox news and Glenn Beck. Just about everyone at Obamacrimes will be calling Glenn Beck tommorrow and the coming days. It's about time for this issue to be brought out in the open.

[Tommy Thompson]

Here's the latest response I got back from the Glenn Beck show:
----- Original Message -----
From: [e-mail]
To: Tommy
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: The COLB issue

"IMHO - This is a massive waste of time. Please send nothing more. We're working on things that matter.

Focus on things that can be done. If the last bastions of reason (FOX News) see this is foolish, what does that tell you?

Good Day."

Here's my response I just sent back:

It appears that a lot of folks are wondering what's going on with Glenn Beck and the reluctance to report ANYTHING on the citizenship issue. I see that you are about to be swamped with people calling in to ask why Fox news and Glenn Beck are not addressing this issue. We are totally baffled by responses like yours. Whether you believe it or not, Glenn Beck is loosing credibility with a major portion of his viewers like me. So you tell me....is it really a "massive waste of time?" Tommy Thompson

[Tommy Thompson]

and then this comment today from one of our most respected posters at obamacrimes:

"I was just listening to the radio and Billy Cunningham is on and said something is fixing to go down on the Birth Certificate. He said he talked to Sean Hannity 4 days ago about it and said he wasn’t gonna say what they talked about in private but did tell his guest who was talking about the BC by stating if they really start asking hard relentless Birth Certificate questions to the media enough that the cards will fall. Cunningham did say that if Obama is found to be not eligible that the Healthcare would be defeated at a instant and that all stimulus legislation would end as well. This is good news to hear and he also said basically it is going to have to come down to all radio hosts like Sean, Rush, Laura Ingram to make a stand and start asking the BC questions if the media keeps protecting Obama. This might be the start of something happening this week because I think they have realized after Obamas dismal performance of the crotch bomber that it is time to bring him down once and for all."

[cbk]

I am still dubious that anything will happen. The Democraps just have a major stronghold on power in D.C. at the present time. So much pressure can be brought to bear that it's a real up hill battle. I think our only hope is to throw out so many Democraps in the 2010 elections that it will erase their exclusive hold on power. Right now it is as if another party doesn't even exist. However, having said all of that, I too added my voice (in an email to Glen Beck) to those saying that they don't think questions about Obama's right to be President is a waste of time.
I look forward to seeing just what Fox will do.
Since the question hasn't been settled one way or another I think it's VERY important to settle it.

[jerry]

Cunningham did say that if Obama is found to be not eligible that the Healthcare would be defeated at a instant and that all stimulus legislation would end as well.

Why is that a given? Yomama did not come up with that crap all by himself.

[Tommy Thompson]

right now the health care bill is nothing more than a huge balancing act constructed where one deal is linked to another. If it were proven that Obama was ineligible and or illegal to boot, the entire system they have been setting up would collapse. Nothing he has signed would be valid.

[jerry]

Tommy, remember you are dealing with Democraps who would argue that he WAS President when he signed them.

[Tommy Thompson]

CBK, I so glad you too have contacted Glenn Beck. In just the past several hours two entire pages were filled up at obamacrimes on this issue. It looks like this issue about Obama's citizenship and the failure of Glenn Beck and others to report on the facts is really blowing up big time. This is not just at obamacrimes...it's all over the country. A lot of very prominent people in politics is demanding an apology from Glenn Beck for referring to the "birthers" as idiots and are also demanding representation on his show from people like Phil Berg who know the facts surrounding Obama's qualifications. It's time for the regular public see the facts so they can make their own decisions. The so called "birthers" are really mad that nobody seems to be listening to them...they are fed up and are starting to really put their collective foot down.

[Tommy Thompson]

Jan 5, 2010 16:45:38 GMT -5 jerry said:

Tommy, remember you are dealing with Democraps who would argue that he WAS President when he signed them.

yes, but if he were found to be illegal everything he has signed would be null and void. Also, Nancy Pelosi would be complicit because she's the one who verified his qualifications....at least she did in one state...Hawaii. (because they required it) While we were being told by one Secretarty of State after another that Nancy Pelosi and the DNC verified Obama's qualifications we learned that that was not true. She did NOT verify his qualifications to 49 states.
For those who originally made the assumption that "surely somebody somewhere checked his citizenship to get where he is" turns out to be just that...an assumption.

[jerry]

Jan 5, 2010 17:05:06 GMT -5 Tommy Thompson said:

Jan 5, 2010 16:45:38 GMT -5 jerry said:

Tommy, remember you are dealing with Democraps who would argue that he WAS President when he signed them.

yes, but if he were found to be illegal everything he has signed would be null and void.

Aw, I don't know. I'm sure most of Larry Lunkford's signatures are still valid even though he was kicked out of his job. Sure, it's a legal point, but these days such things are decided by the best lawyers, not the law.

[cbk]

Jerry, just because a Jew likes nothing better than a debate I'd say the difference between Larry and Obama is this. Larry was eligible to hold his office. The fact that he was a crook and turned out of office doesn't make the things he signed null and void while he was in that office. Obama, on the other hand, if he is shown to be not legally eligible to even run for the office of President much less hold it would not be able to sign anything and have it stick. He wouldn't really ever have been president only a pretender to the office, so to speak. I don't know if you remember the case of the justice of the peace who through some bureaucratic paperwork snafu wasn't reinstated in his office for a number of days. He didn't know it and in that period had married several couples. He had to go remarry them because he wasn't a justice of the peace for those few days. Same principle as far as I can see. What do you think?

[jerry]

I think it will be a betting proposition. I say the odds of Yomama getting kicked out and having his acts voided are about 1 in 10. Getting kicked out with acts intact, 1 in 7.

I also think this case will prove once and for all that we are no longer in charge, and the Constitution is merely a list of suggestions.

[Tommy Thompson]

the term for Obama would be "usurper" and technically everything he signs would be invalid because he held the office under fraud just like the justice of the peace that CBK described. Of course Jerry you're right about how far this congress would go in upholding the constitution...and the law.
However, that's why we MUST get these people OUT of the congress in 2010.

[larrywalker]

I heard Glenn discussing this the other day, and I am not sure if the show (radio) was new or old, but you have the gist of his point, Tommy--he says any energy spent on the birth certificate issue is diverting time from defeating healthcare and cap and trade, and immigration reform (which is approaching rapidly.) If the spotlight is put on the "birthers" and nothing ever happens on that front, then the left brands all of the right wing media as witch hunters and nut cases, and I don't think the Rushes and Seans and Glenns of the world want to stake their reputation on this longshot. Now maybe it will come through, and the obamacrimes folks will be vindicated, but like Jerry, as a betting man, I suspect the very forces that could have pulled off such a thing will also be in position to squash any real evidence, as they have probably done the last 24 months.

[cbk]

So we should only fight the fights we can win? If that were the case then George Washington should have stayed at Mount Vernon, in the comfort of his home, rather than subjecting himself to the cold winter at Valley Forge. IMO we fight the fights that need to be fought. We fight them with courage, conviction, and all of our energy. When the people get used to accepting what they are told is when the people lose their freedoms and rights. I, for one, am not willing to believe something just because someone in Washington says I'm a nut job for not believing it. Individually I'm not much. But WE, the people, are unstoppable. And WE, the people, must believe in our power if we are to exercise it!